How do you compare your current pastorate with the inner-city church?
In some ways it's harder. You don't have some of the social institutions. In St. Paul, there was a settlement house. Broward Outreach is a good program, but it's not the same.
Their identity to a mainline church disappears. And rabbis tell me that Jews get lost somewhere along I-95. And politically, there's low turnout even for national elections. I once coached softball at South Broward High School. It was wonderful coaching the kids, but a fair number of parents didn't show up for the games.
What challenges does all that pose?
To reach out, connect with the community, any way you can. This church was founded in 1926. There's a continuing concern that it will be around another 80 years.
That sounds despairing. What keeps you going?
We have really fabulous people to volunteer. We also have a school, from babies to preschool. It's great to see them. I just told them about Noah. It's important to tell them those stories.
What do you do to relax?
I sit around the pool and have a glass of Shiraz. That's a nice Australian red wine.
Favorite vacation spot?
The islands. We've been to Jamaica and the Bahamas. My other favorite place is the Boundary Waters Canoe Area, between Minnesota and Ontario. It's really wild, wonderful country. You can only paddle, no motorboats. And it has good fishing.
Mamma Mia is the first musical I saw that was actually interesting. I would love to go to the Greek islands. The Dark Knight was wild. I could preach on that one for weeks.
Favorite music? Favorite performer(s)?
I love Wynton Marsalis. I love fusion jazz. Way back I was a Thelonius Monk fan.
Do you have a hero?
My father. He was a cop. And he was so straight, he didn't get many promotions. He arrested too many public figures for speeding. We had a rough relationship, but I admired him. He also liked cats, which is probably why I have a lot of them.