Ex-NFL general manager Scott Pioli, during a segment during NBC's Football Night in America, was lukewarm on his assessment of Jonathan Martin's football skills coming out of college, but was unabashed in his criticism of Miami Dolphins Pro Bowl guard Richie Incognito.
Of Incognito, Pioli said to host Dan Patrick: 'If he's a leader in your locker room, then that's a problem."
Pioli, who was the Vice President of Player Personnel for the New England Patriots in 2005 when Incognito was drafted by the St. Louis Rams, also added that "I didn't want him coming out, and I don't want him now."
Here is a transcript of the back-and-forth between Patrick and Pioli, who also was General Manager of the Kansas City Chiefs from 2009-12.
Patrick: When you were with the Chiefs, you scouted Martin when he was in college, what did you guys think?
Pioli: You know, we saw a guy who was a great athlete, a really smart football player, but he wasn't our type of player as an offensive lineman. We generally liked guys who were a little bit tougher, a little bit more physical. He just wasn't our type of guy.
Patrick: But, personality-wise, you saw some problems there.
Pioli: Well, they weren't problems....
Pioli: Yeah, football-wise, as a football player. Yes, he wasn't a guy that we wanted from a style-of-play standpoint
Patrick: Mike [Florio] mentioned Richie Incognito. Um, if he's your leader, one of your leaders, and whatever is a prank or bullying here, what do you think of that situation?
Pioli: If he is a leader in your locker room, that is a problem, because he has a long history of issues going back to Nebraska, when he was kicked out of school. But, what this shows me is that there is some void of leadership somewhere within the Miami Dolphins locker room, because if there are issues like this, generally the head coach or the general manager is going to know something about this. They're going to be able to fix the problem before it manifests itself into this disaster they have right now.
Patrick: Would you want Richie Incognito in your locker room?
Pioli: I didn't want him coming out, and I don't want him now.