Alec Baldwin talks "Seduced and Abandoned"

Filmmaker James Toback, left, and Alec Baldwin in the HBO documentary "Seduced and Abandoned," which airs on HBO on Oct. 28, 2013. (HBO)

Airing Monday night on HBO, "Seduced and Abandoned" is a meta-documentary in which actor Alec Baldwin and his filmmaker pal James Toback take a look at the arbitrary deal-making process behind today's movie business.

Toback and Baldwin roamed the Cannes Film Festival last year, documenting the arduous -- and crushing -- prices of getting a film financed and made. The likes of Roman Polanksi, Martin Scorcese, Ryan Gosling and others offer their commentary and reservations about the industry as Tobak, who directs and stars, and Baldwin, who stars, try to pitch a movie they dub "Last Tango in Tikrit," an Iraq War-set romance with much "exploratory sex."

Baldwin, whose movie career has mostly given way to TV, spoke with Show Tracker about the film last week just before taping the next installment of his new MSNBC talk show, which also got some talk time.

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You're not on your way to Pilates class, are you? I feel like every time I have you on the phone, that's where you're going.

I’m at MSNBC, which is the opposite of Pilates class. Pilates strengthens you, empowers you, enriches you, it helps the life force to flow to the extremities of your body — are we recording this, I hope? It brings chi from your fingertips to your toes. MSNBC sucks the life out of you. It’s a digital vampire that’s killing me, inch by inch every day.

You know how to get quoted, Baldwin! I feel like I’m getting to know the Twitter you.

Mmm, yeah. It’s been tough. It’s been tough. It’s been tough.

Let’s look on the bright side: congrats on the baby!

Yeah, that’s been great. It’s been great. Really. It’s the greatest thing in the world. I just wish I was rich—

You’re not rich?

I mean really rich. There’s rich and then there’s effing rich.

I’m nowhere near either of those, so …

Well, but you’re rich in other ways. I can hear it in your voice. Look at how happy you sound. Listen to how half-dead I sound. And that’s from MSNBC.

Yeah, I don’t have a talk show … yet.

Consider yourself lucky, because it’s hard. All my complaining, by the way, is sarcasm, readers. I love MSNBC, particularly Phil Griffin, who runs MSNBC. I think the issue has been booking people. It’s really hard booking people.

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I’m available.

Oh, you want to come do the show? You want to do a show about Pilates?

Let’s do it. But first, let’s talk about “Seduced and Abandoned.” What initially went through your mind when James told you his plan for this?